I'm leaving in about a half hour to go see it. I'm such an idiot. Sometimes I can't stand myself.

I'd hate myself if I *didn't* see it or want to see it. I can't imagine hating a man so much as to pass up the opportunity to look at things from a different perspective or perhaps one I didn't ponder [let's face it, no one can cover EVERY angle on their own].
I suppose it's like the "Hey everyone!.. Let's ALL hate Celine Dion because she's successful, has a beautiful voice and if someone denies that we can always fall back on the same old tear-down 'she doesn't write her own material!'"

I don't care one way or the other about Moore. The reason I won't see his work is that he has zero credibility from a documentary standpoint. His work is nothing but an opinion screed, which is fine, but it offers nothing substantial to the debate. Moore really is nothing more than the political equivalent of the moon hoax proponents, and so on. Rather than arguing the merits of the evidence and then coming to a conclusion, he starts with the conclusion he wants to reach and picks and chooses the evidence to support his position, without regard to that which does not. (to be fair, he isn't the only one who does that).

I'm completely interested in seeing and hearing the evidence and arguments for both sides of this issue (and have already started that process). It's just that Moore cannot be trusted to present an honest appraisal of the issue, nor can some of his reactionary adversaries.

It wouldn't be so bad if so many people didn't believe everything they hear.

still, another opinion from a friend of mine:


Greetings,

I just got back from Fahrenheit 9/11. And man, am I drained. Never have I seen a film that has dragged me through so many emotions in a 2 hour period. I think ALL the left and the right wing views were right. It's funny, it's scary, it's manipulative, patriotic, un-patrotic, I laughed...I cried...so on and so forth... I strongly encourage all of you to go see this film, regardless of your political views because even if Moore is right about 1% of what he says, then we are in a much scarier time and place then I could have ever thought (or at least try to digest all at once).

So if you see 1 movie this summer, see Fahrenheit 9/11 because:

1. Spiderman is gonna win
2. Predator will defeat the Alien
3. Will Smith will kill all the robots

But "9/11" will help you make a decision (either way) about your future.

Anyway, enough ranting, Later.

Adam Baker

PS Dodgeball was AWESOME, and I don't like Ben Stiller

Golf anyone? According to Moore, any president who plays golf is a no-good heartless slacker. Thing is most presidents play golf.

is a no-good heartless slacker.

..no big thing....

...I played today with my son as my partner......he called me the same thing

Hmm...guess I will give it a shot then.

I guess that's another reason as to why I will not go to see this movie.
I do not want to go to a film that will make me think about, current political, economical or any other issue to be at hand for the day. I go to movies to be entertained, and lose myself for a couple of hours in something other than the real world. I don't want to be convinced, educated, coerced or informed by a media I am paying to entertain me. Heck it's getting so that I don't even like the dang commercials, creeping into the theatres. The only difference, between theatres and my TV is the Ticket price, and I can make my own popcorn, now.

No, I wouldn't waste my money, and if anyone is interested, here is a breakdown of the main points of the movie from ScreenIt.com http://www.screenit.com/movies/2004/fahrenheit_911.html

Heck it's getting so that I don't even like the dang commercials, creeping into the theatres.

Fanta fanta!

No need for me to see the movie.

I can just sit back and listen to him stick his nose into Canadian politics.

Right where it doesn't belong.

But then, going where he doesn't belong seems to appeal to him.

I'd actually like to see it a lot, but I don't feel like I HAVE to see it, because we all already know Bush is an idiot.

I forgot who said it, but someone early on called Moore "Un-American". I'd like someone to please define "un-american", because I'd really like to know what it takes to be so...

speaking your mind? sharing your views? going against the majority? I'd like to think that these views are the most american of all. C'mon people, this is America, not China.

***The aforementioned comment about China was not meant to be discriminatory, only meant to point out that China is a communist state and would not tolerate those ideals***

I saw it yesterday, I would make everyone see it if I could.
Nice soldiers you got driving those tanks. *rolls eyes*
Time to stop hiding and do something about this, I mean daaammmm.

NOPE.........