Ok to clarify. If there was information out there by anyone other than him, I would probably be interested. He has been caught in way too many lies and is so blatantly un-American.

No, I will not put money in his pocket either. The man is just an oppurtunist. If there was any earth shattering facts in this movie that needed to be brought to light, it would be in a courtroom not a movie theatre.

I loved his other film. I keep an open mind and will deffinitly go see his new movie.

I think everyone should see this. Because on every story there are 2 sides. Mostly we have seen only one side of this story.

Have we only really seen the "one side?" I don't think so. I don't remeber any network talking about how great Bush is, or for that matter, what good things are coming out of the war. No, it's typically the opposite.

I must say, Moore is an interesting filmmaker, but he always comes across so polarized. I wish he would use his talents "Globally" rather than always picking on his own country. There are bigger problems out there. I would really enjoy his style, but can't tolerate his bashing. Maybe he should live under Saddam's rule for a couple of years and then make a film about that. OOPPS, I forgot, Saddam wouldn't let him have a camera in Iraq. If he tried anyway, they'd kill him. No free speech. Doggone it, I thought I was on to something.

I think Design Caddy put it best...Nope.

OOpps...It was CC that said it first.

Wonder if things would be better if continents never seperated.
(Like in ye ole dino years)

From what I hear Moore himself is only in the film for
a short time. The rest is interviews with a lot of
different people made by small film crews all over
the globe, people who work in the government, people
who work in the military etc. etc..

I never saw Bowling for Columbine. Not sure why,
but it is something with that story that doesn't
feel right.

I can't say that Moore is un-American, he feels
there are important things that needs to be discussed
and he uses his creativity to reach out to other people.

If you as an American can't raise questions about
things that really bothers you, things would seem like
in some old communist state where everyone had to think
like the leader or be imprisoned or killed.

I will probably see the film when it arrives, mainly
because I've studied a lot of the happenings from 9/11
to the present day, because 9/11 was also something
that when it happened gave me a feeling that something
was not right, and there are a lot of fishy details that
people really need to be told about.

Guess we will see if the movie is good or not.

Well one thing im sure about is Bowling for Columbine made me proud to be Canadian.
(If you have seen the movie you will understand)

Nope. Can't stand the guy.

I can't say that Moore is un-American, he feelsthere are important things that needs to be discussedand he uses his creativity to reach out to other people.

Please...no disrespect intended, but you can't say whether he is or is not an American because you are not an American. You have no reference point. Any more that I can say what it means to be from Sweden. Please, come to America and truly be an American before you make a judgment about whether someone is "American" or not.

He, most definitly, has the right to make his film, have it distrubited, and have it viewed.

I, most definitly, have the right to say I won't support him by watching his film. If I could watch it without putting money is his pocket, I probably would. Simply so I could justify an opinion about his film. I may do so anyway.

From what I hear Moore himself is only in the film fora short time. The rest is interviews with a lot ofdifferent people made by small film crews all overthe globe, people who work in the government, peoplewho work in the military etc. etc..

And for the record, any good film/video editor can take an assembly of news clips and make them say anything they want. I truly hope he has done more to support his position than that. If not, give me a couple of days to collect news clips and I'll counter his argument with my own film.

Remember, context is more important than the spoken word. Understand the context of something and you'll begin to see the bigger picture.

I don't much care for anything at all to do with politics.....it's my opinion that the founding fathers of this country would be shuddering in their mocassins and buckle boots if they were to see what today's politicians have done to once respected offices.

Politicians have become crooked and untrustworthy....all of 'em

I'm gonna go out back and get bug bit and take pictures of nature now....

while it's still here >

I watch it not really as a political movie, its more a comedy for me.
And I agree with _footsie_ at the same time
Time for my walk.

Citizen ToeJo said:

Please...no disrespect intended, but you can't say whether he is or is not an American because you are not an American. You have no reference point. ... Please, come to America and truly be an American before you make a judgment about whether someone is "American" or not.

Well my friend, I work with American people who run American companies
on a daily basis making games and applications, I have done that for
many years and I have visited my American friends on several occasions.

I'm finding it quite interesting to see that a few people want to brand
other people who feel that the current government are doing really bad things,
as "un-American", sort of like an "outcast", someone who should be
driven away(?).

Was it "un-American" to get rid of Nixon? Was it "un-American"
to impeach Clinton?

I mean, who has the soul right to dictate what you must say and think
to get the label "100% Real American"?

For example, I am very sceptical of how our current Swedish government
are running the country though I'm not branded "un-Swedish".

People in America are like people in the rest of the world, they
are mostly quite nice and since they are many they usually have
many different ideas and views on things.

Some are like some swedes and believe everything the government
and the media tell them to believe. Others again feel that
it is important to search for the "stories behind the stories".



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something with that story that doesn't feel right.

yeah. half of it was fabricated, twisted, and blown out of proportion.

Michael Moore is your classic yellow journalist. he contradicts himself by using the same tactics in his articles that he attacks the press for using, and he takes a small peice of fact and exploads it into fiction. regardless of 'eye witness interviews' and 'first hand accounts' from the people he interviews for this film, i have no reason to believe he wouldn't twist such reports around the way he does with everything else, for example by only showing certain interviews that send a spacific message, and only relaying messages that support his own opinions in politics, and which make ever so dramatic the 'action' of that horrible day for the simple purpose of making something entertaining, and spurring people to make protest.

there is a way to tell history, and to memorialize people. he is not the man who should be doing it. additionally, i agree with so many others of you: i don't want to put any money into that mans pocket.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?messageDate=2004-02-11

Worthy read. A letter to Bush from M. Moore, regarding the press conference here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040210-3.html [a very funny video, what a dodgy guy!]

Interesting read, as well, explains a little more of the movie:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?messageDate=2004-06-18

More reading:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?messageDate=2004-06-18